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Flash
Australia
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 Posted - July 06 2008 : 08:54:57 AM
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I am relaunching this question as it seems my 1st attempt, whilst registered on forum is no where to be seen. It is regarding the right elbow (RH golfer) and where it should be pointing. Should it be rotated clockwise so it points to the inside of the right thigh, or does the arm hang more naturally, with the elbow pointing outside of the thigh?
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kfarkle
USA
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Posted - July 06 2008 : 12:32:25 PM
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Hi Flash,
Here's an excerpt from the manual:
First, make sure your front elbow is rotated slightly (not changing your grip) so that the elbow points at the target. We call this getting the elbow “hinge onplane.”
You should check that your back elbow points downward slightly. Rotating the front elbow sets the upper arm on the correct backswing plane and insures that the beginning of the backswing is on-plane. It also ensures that the elbow “hinges on-plane”. Rotating your back elbow downward helps move your back arm “out of the way” so that you stay on-plane throughout your swing. Both of these moves become automatic with about 5 minutes of practice. Note that as the front elbow is rotated up pointing toward the target, the rear elbow is rotated slightly downward. This downward rotation in effect helps “gets the back arm out of the way” and allows the backswing to continue “on-plane.”
Coach will have to be more specific about this, but I would think that back elbow needs to be pointing down comfortably. I remember Chuck telling me to watch that back elbow at the clinic a couple of times, it was coming up and to far inside. My tendency is to get lax with both elbow positions, something I need to work on in practice more. Good post, thanks for reminding me of this.
Best,
Kurt |
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Flash
Australia
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Posted - July 07 2008 : 05:13:58 AM
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Cheers Kurt, Thanks for hunting out that piece from the manual. I will focas on that next time I'm out. It is also good to hear from those that have been to a few of the clinics, and can pass on little tips that people like myself miss due to being out side of the U.S.
Golf On!
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dorro1971
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Posted - July 17 2008 : 8:22:46 PM
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Hi FLash,
i have been away from simple swing for a while,
but what i have found is:
i now make my right hand grip ten fingered,..no overlap but i make sure i can see my fingernails on top of the clubshaft "palm almost underneath" with a pinch between my right index finger and thumb.
i find this makes my right elbow point towards the ground during my backswing and it encourages me to approach the ball from the inside
"especially if i try to jab my ribs with it" as the right elbow wants to stay close to the body, it also tends to prevent the right hand from dominating too early although it must have effect to add power.
over the top motion will destroy your swing,...stay behind the ball.
please don't take this as gospel but it is what helps me.
cheers
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mikeoleary
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Posted - July 22 2008 : 09:16:48 AM
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Flash
good question and answered well by Kurt and mr.dorro(glad you back from 'lost' travels-lol).
I believe that right elbow does hang naturally but... that is in our 'perfect swing world' - meaning if you have an overactive right arm and need to lessen the right arm from becoming dominant in the swing (either take away or down swing) then you must 'assign a job' for it so your mind get trained in how it should feel or appropriately feel in not doing bad things in swing. whew!
ok so the right arm/ elbow is the 'silent' side of set up
-left arm straight at club shaft
take away
-done by triangle power or movement of upper torso with left shoulder feeling as it leads the way
top of backswing
- keeping hand chest extension for power (left arm still extended with only thumb hinge) the right arm is still relaxed and 'hanging' although fairly straight with no wrist hinge
(review all top of backswing pic and video's to see triangle still in place)
downswing
- pulling with front shoulder the triangle uncoils with big muscles doing work/ both arms and hands are being pulled by this uncoiling motion. staying extended for power.
From a teachers point of view IF you are thinking about right elbow then you are probably much too 'right hand/arm' dominant in you mind (most right handed people are obviously)
so if we were doing a lesson today I would tell you to relax right shoulder, arm and hand - no grip tension// take the club away with no right arm power// learn top of back swing position with NO tension in right arm ie tricep/// and make downswing the most relaxed right side you have ever felt.
once this happens and your mind allows all right side to relax then club head speed increases a lot and you have this new sensation of whipping the club with triangle power and not right arm pushing and controlling swing.
btw do the whooosh drill a thousand times to feel what correct is, hear the sound of power swoosh and then do swing with right hand on club and duplicate same sound and finish position.
if you need any further explanation please email me and we can do phone lesson and get straight.
just thinking maybe try to set up hawaii clinic in future and possibly some of you 'down under' guys from south pacific can make the trip/ i will come 2/3 ?? of the way and we can have a 2 day workshop with lesson and playing.
just a thought.
take care
Mike O
let me know how it goes with this new feeling of swing. |
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Trailing Elbow
