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Donal
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 Posted - August 07 2009 : 10:06:12 AM
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I find it surprising that the two forums SympleSwing Short Game Questions and SympleSwing Short Game Open Discussions are both empty of any content how many of you people play golf ? or are you all just Range Donkeys’ what do you do when you leave the tee or are you so good that you hit all the greens in one……….. Wow someone should get Tiger over to this site quick
Come on be honest who played 2 rounds this week
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kfarkle
USA
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 Posted - August 07 2009 : 12:50:41 PM
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Hi Donal, good to hear from you.
Once you have a symple putter, scoring becomes automatic from anywhere on the green.
Might become a full time RD if we get many more cuts at the work place, playing once a week may become a thing of the past...again. Might be one of the guys with all his possessions loaded on the Bag Boy if we can't stop the bleeding soon.
Actually, I do work on my short game in the back yard, but use a different method. Guess it's a feel thing, but just prefer more movement with my hands and wrists. This may be heresy, but I've been doing well of late with Lefty's instruction...using the power thumb. It just feels so much more natural to me and I've never been able to chip very well without some hinging. I'm almost ashamed to talk about it here because it's the basis of the instruction.
Don't give up on me yet, Coach. Some day I may quit tinkering...but that's half the fun of this game for me. This does seem to work in my case, and probably one of the reasons I Lease My Swing as well.
Best,
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jownz
United Kingdom
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Posted - August 09 2009 : 03:48:37 AM
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Hi
Playing twice a week at the moment (light work load and understanding wife), last week played P&P with a couple of non golfing buddies - so for me a time to practice different stances for distance.
One of them bumps a 7 iron around the course (with an arm only swing), so I borrowed it on a couple of holes just for fun.
Range time is work for me, nesessary sometimes - would rather be out playing P&P.
I hadnt mentioned it before as it was P&P, but have had 3 hole in ones with SS. 40, 65, and 90 yards, the 90 went straight in will a loud thwack!
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flopper
Sweden
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Posted - August 09 2009 : 12:39:12 PM
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Played match today, abck tee, won.
was tired due to dehydration.
poured 2 liter down the neck and stuff started to work.
3down after 7.
won 4-2.
The reason people join a forum are due to mostly read.
Not to add or conrribute or discuss.
If you look at any forum, you see a few core people group and then some random and then some guests.
Here you see, me, and some others who write frequently, not that many others.
fairway and green have dried up, faster and harder ground.
I hit the ball to far now on approach shots.
had 180yards on last hole, hit 5i over green.
sigh....
Giving up trying to meet goals and outcomes this year.
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simpleswing
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Posted - August 10 2009 : 1:13:28 PM
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Hi Donal,
I know what you mean. That always surprised me. However the fact is few golfers practice their short games. Most practice greens are relatively empty. The few people on the practice green are probably "warming up" before a round and not really practicing.
The fact is you can save the most strokes by practicing your putting, chipping and pitching but few people do it. We teach Symple Swing by teaching chipping and pitching first. Mastering Symple Chipping makes learning the full Symple Swing much much, easier yet student fight us on that all the time. They constantly want to jump right to the driver. I guess it's the testosterone.
Joe Davidson
Simple Golf LLC
www.SimpleGolf.com
203-798-8489
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six-gold
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Posted - August 10 2009 : 1:35:33 PM
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I don't remember if I read about one person's practice routine, or heard about it. In any case this is what he did. He would get out early in the morning and proceed to one of the holes on the course that was reasonably straight away and somewhere in the 300/350 range, and where he wouldn't be in anyone's way. He would then tee up twice, using his driver. he would then walk ahead 10 yards and hit two more balls using his 3 wood, another 10 yards, etc., working down to his pitching wedge. By doing this he would have 26 balls in play at varying distances from the green. Now he is in a position to pitch or chip all the balls onto the green. 26 balls now in a position to be putted. With his daily practice routine done, he is ready for a round of golf. So why haven't I done this?
P.S. we do not have a driving range in our area, so this seems like a no brainer.
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rwerth
USA
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Posted - August 12 2009 : 4:00:38 PM
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Hi Donal,
I think your actual question was why is there no content in the short game discussions. When I first got into this forum I didn't see any discussions either; by default only the last 7 days discussions were shown. There is a drop down on the upper-left of the screen to set this to "All discussions", then you will see that there are 3 pages of discussions in this topic |
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Donal
51 Posts |
Posted - August 13 2009 : 03:48:58 AM
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What I was trying to rectify with my post was the lack of interest in short game entries let me explain I can stand on the 1st 2nd 3rd etc tee at my golf course and hit my drive maybe some are ok some left some right but all playable then 90% of the game starts right down to the little chip the put the bunker shot or even the dreaded lob, that is where I was looking for info, things like choice of club what new clubs are out there to help,members reviews of them, new ideas new ways of griping for putting, did you see Padraig Harrington’s putting grip and can he put, I know every company have a million drivers and rescue clubs but for example would the Cleveland Niblick be a better investment for me than the Cleveland Hi Bore Driver or a One club 6 different shots Nike I can do that without wanting, you see I can’t get any further with a driver no matter what manufacturer I hit or what model they bring out but I’m sure I could get another 5 yards consistently in the right line with the short game, that and a good bunker routine a smooth putting stroke a confident chip wow I could be a golfer. Before everyone points me to SS short game DVD’s I have them and SS Putting I just wanted to read your input Thanks to all who responded
Donal
PS rwerth thank you for your help but only 2 entries for the whole of 2009
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simpleswing
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Posted - August 13 2009 : 4:16:33 PM
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Hi Donal,
Okay let's talk about the short game. The basic principal we follow is to simplify everything to reduce the number of variables in your chipping and pitching thereby reducing the potential for errors.
You need accuracy and consistency with your short game NOT DISTANCE. It's how close to the pin you can get it not how far you can hit your wedge that counts.
Just that change in mindset should take strokes off you game. Keep the feet as close together as possible with the hip shifted forward so the front hip is on the target side of the front ankle like it would be if you were standing on one foot. This position will put almost all weight on the front leg. This will dramatically reduce lower body motion improving accuracy and consistency. BTW, if you have any trouble keeping your weight on your front leg lift your back heel up. That will in effect make you stand on one leg but your back foot with the ball of the foot on the ground will stabilize you so balance won't be a problem.
You should have at an absolute minimum two wedges, and you'll score better with 3+. You should have a standard pitching wedge of about 50 degrees. You should have a sand wedge of about 55 degrees. You should have a lob wedge of about 60 degrees. (I've carried four wedges for about 15 years. I'm experimenting with a 64 degree wedge now. (I've taken my 45 degree gap wedge out of my bag for now)
I use my 50 degree pitching wedge around the green more than any other club. I use a 60 degree wedge with a small flange and less than normal bounce for high, soft lob shots (just done with the normal chipping motion but sometimes opening up to get more loft (higher shot). I do use an 8 iron for longer running chips. 95% of the time around the green I use my 50 degree wedge, 60 degree wedge or 8 iron. I practice with those clubs so I have confidence in them and I can hit a variety of shots (high and low) with each of them. I use my 60 wedge from the sand even through it doesn't have much bounce just because I like the club and can throw the ball up nice and high. When doing sand shots I quite often use the T-Lock Stance with both knees bent quite a lot. That gives me a very stable lower body. Obviously the slope of the sand can dictate another stance but the goal of a stable lower body is the same.
When chipping I take a good look at the slope and really try not to leave myself any downhill/sidehill putts if I can help it. I'd rather have an uphill putt of 6-7 feet than a downhill/sidehill putt of 3-4 feet.
I use the basic chipping motion, feet together with a quiet lower body on pretty much all shots out to about 100 yards. (Pretty much everybody should be able to do that out to 50 yards) I used to hit my full swing Sand Wedge from 100 yards now at 100 yards I take my 125 yard PW put my feet together. Putting my feet together restricts (shortens) my backswing which is exactly what I want. The shorter backswing is more repeatable and more consistent. I then hit my 125 yard PW more accurately and more consistently from 100 yards than I use to with my full sand wedge.
I don't keep my arms stiff even through I'm predominately powering my chips and pitches with my core (shoulders, chest & abdomen). I try to keep my arms "soft and reactive" meaning I keep my arms relaxed and don't' consciously try to hit with my arms or wrists. The thought of letting your arms stay loose like spaghetti when chipping or pitching is a good way to feel this. My arms and wrists do add some power but more as a reaction to my core swinging the arms. What we want is a little reactive thumb cock (cocking in the direction of your PowerThumb) on chips and pitches. That little reactive cocking enables the core to have just a little whip (un-cocking) of the wrist through impact.
On really short chips that thumb cock will be barely perceptible. One longer chips and pitches you should feel the wrists reactively cocking in the back swing just before you're starting your downswing. If you're not sure about what your wrists should be doing try the Pre-Cock Drill http://simpleswing.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~565.asp
Okay Donal, maybe that will stimulate some conversation about the short game.
Joe Davidson
Simple Golf
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