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jclenden


USA
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Posted - August 05 2009 :  4:46:31 PM  Show Profile Send jclenden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Joe/Mike,

Why do you consider it essential to tilt away from the target at impact? What would go wrong if you didn’t tilt away from the target? In other words, what would go wrong if you kept your head centered over your body throughout the swing, with your shoulders essentially level at impact (like a capital 'A')? I know you have stated that some baseball players seem to tilt away, but I haven't seen where you explain the bio-mechanical advantage as you do with some other elements of the swing. Can you please explain the bio-mechanical advantage to this impact (and setup) position?

Thanks,

Jeff

Edited by - jclenden on August 05 2009 4:47:41 PM

mikeoleary



535 Posts

Posted - August 05 2009 :  7:58:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit mikeoleary's Homepage Send mikeoleary a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jeff
I will leave the bio mechanical explanation / advantages of spine tilt to Joe/// my personal preference is one of slightly less tilt but either way keeping spine angle at same angle is key/ my experience from hundreds of lessons is alot of guys over cook spine angle and gets in trouble with too much tilt, so my take is less is better but /I will let Joe know to offer his insight to great question.
good luck
MikeO
ps how is game this week?
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jclenden



USA
206 Posts

Posted - August 05 2009 :  11:08:09 PM  Show Profile Send jclenden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Mike. That's my hunch, too, but I wanted to ask.

I was +2 this week and pretty much sealed 1st place for my league. My play has been very solid except for missing some putts (misreads) that I should have made. I feel as if there's very little more to do to "fix" my swing mechanics. I've never felt that way before, so it's sort of a milestone for me. At this point I'm working almost solely on grooving the swing. In a month or so I'm going to go back through all of my journal entries and extract those that made the most difference in getting me to this point, and then I'll probably recap them here on the practice forum. I hope to play on a "normal" course this coming weekend. If I can shoot in the 70s again, then I'll be pretty certain that I have reached my goal.
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simpleswing



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Posted - August 06 2009 :  01:23:39 AM  Show Profile  Visit simpleswing's Homepage Send simpleswing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Jeff,

First reason is because that's the position of every touring pro at impact. However, the real question is why is that the position of every touring pro at impact.

The real reason is that it's all about generating power. To rotate effectively and efficiently into the ball you need some tilt of the spine. Try a vertical spine and I think you see you have much more trouble generating club head speed. The tilted spine lets you brace into the front leg more effectively generating more club head speed. For your legs to effectively brace into your front leg, your front hip has to be higher than your back hip. The raised front hip results in the tilting of the spine.

Your can play with a vertical spine or even a reverse tilt but if your ever seen a golfer reverse tilt you know that they don't generate much power.

BTW, you only need a 10 to 15 degree tilt. Mike's right about a lot of Symple Swingers overdoing the tilt.

Joe Davidson
Simple Golf
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flopper



Sweden
320 Posts

Posted - August 06 2009 :  01:36:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit flopper's Homepage Send flopper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
when you trow a force in one direction to hold on to that effectivly an oposing force is needed (bracing) to create the momentum or fulcrum point of leverage.
Just trow a ball, and let the body follow the trow as you trow the ball.
then trow a ball and let the body hold on and the one you trow longer is obvious.

This can be seen in javelin trowing where they simply use the body as a pivot point for the fulcrum leverage.


Giving up trying to meet goals and outcomes this year.
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SATTHMNS



121 Posts

Posted - August 06 2009 :  12:12:38 PM  Show Profile Send SATTHMNS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think I do tend to get too much spine tilt at times.
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