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Tiu
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 Posted - June 23 2009 : 12:03:11 AM
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My Symple Swing game has been going down hill for some time now. So I took some time to review the basics, and discovered that I had pretty much forgotten all the basics. Played a round today, and was hittting my irons better than I have in a very long time. Only had one problem, I could not consistently hit the driver. Two out of every three tee shots were just ugly hooks. The shots started off looking like they might play well, but would take just an ugly left hand turn 200 yards down the fairway. But it didn't stop there, once the ball hit the ground the ball kick even further left. I had the power thumb at about 1:30, rock & lock seemed to be in place, felt as if I was using the front hip as a pivot point, but could not rid myself of this ugly hook. Need a little help here.
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jclenden
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Posted - June 23 2009 : 1:07:46 PM
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| What are your wrists/hands doing through impact? An active trail hand can cause the results you describe. |
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simpleswing
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Posted - June 23 2009 : 1:46:27 PM
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Hi Tiu,
If the shots take off straight and then hook further down the fairway then jclenden is right about the problems being with the hands.
First we want to run some tests to absolutely prove to your that the problem is your hands. Intellectually we may know something but until we test it and prove to ourselves exactly what the cause is most of us don't truly believe it.
Here's a couple of things to test the hands.
1. Try the "V-Grip" http://simpleswing.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~684.asp
2. Assuming you're right handed try taking your two overlapping fingers on your right hand COMPLETELY OFF OF OVERLAPPING. Just let those two finger kind of dangle in the air. (Often those fingers provide the fulcrum to roll the hands over through impact. Letting the fingers just hover in the air reduces your ability to roll your hands.
3. Concentrate on pushing with your PowerThumb a bit more. The more you concentrate on powering the swing with the left hand the less your be pushing with your right hand.
4. Try moving your PowerThumb to the left a bit from 2:30 from 3:00 o'clock back to 1:00 to 2:00 o'clock.
Try those things and let me know how that works for your drive.
Joe Davidson
Simple Golf
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Tiu
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Posted - June 23 2009 : 9:36:00 PM
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| Thanks Joe, I will try the v grip tomorrow, one question. Do I use the pinch with the v grip? |
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simpleswing
948 Posts |
Posted - June 23 2009 : 10:30:16 PM
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Hi Tiu,
I'd suggest trying it both ways. Some people don't need the pinch, yet some do.
Joe Davidson
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Tiu
8 Posts |
Posted - June 25 2009 : 12:13:48 AM
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| Joe, had a terrible day today with the driver. It is really the only club that gives me any trouble. Do you have a photo of the v grip? I must have been doing it wrong, I had basicly the same problems. Towards the end I tried to really focus on keeping my head over my back kneee. Had better results with this but not where I want to be. Why is this problem only show up with my driver? Thanks for your help. |
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flopper
Sweden
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Posted - June 25 2009 : 08:16:55 AM
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you get side spin on the ball.
this means as you most likely using a pro level ball that its simply becomes worse spin as the ball travels further.
The driver is the club that the ball tends to behave a little differently.
is the shaft you have made for your swing or just a bought one?
That might influence if its a little to soft also.
as the issue dont appear in the other clubs.
Giving up trying to meet goals and outcomes this year.
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simpleswing
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Posted - June 25 2009 : 09:57:53 AM
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Hi Tiu,
Okay we have to stop and take another look at what might be causing your problem and not make quick assumptions. I made one mistake. I didn't really notice that you said you had your PowerThumb at 1:30 before. Having your PowerThumb in that position makes it extremely difficult to close the club face through impact.
First, I'd love to see a video of your swing. If you have access to a digital still camera take some video clips of your swing and e-mail them to me. (Most digital still cameras these days also take video clips) Tape a couple of swings from behind the ball (facing the target) and from the other side of the ball (facing you) If you have a video camera and you can get the file into a computer you can send large files to me by using the free file transfer program at www.pando.com Or you can just send me a video tape. I prefer MiniDV or VHS.
A couple of questions:
1. Did you have time to practice on the range? It's extremely difficult (impossible for many people) to change your swing on the course.
2. Are your drives taking off straight, to the right or to the left?
3. When you hit the ball do the hits feel solid?
4. What type of driver are you using? Does it have a square face or could it have a closed face? (Manufacturers make lots of closed face drivers for the average golfer that slices)
5. How do you do with fairway woods and long irons?
6. You said 2 out of 3 drives were hooks, what were the other drives like?
7. When you hit irons or fairway woods what do your divots look like? What shape are they? What directions do they point in?
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Towards the end I tried to really focus on keeping my head over my back kneee.
That makes me wonder if you could be coming at the ball from the inside pivoting around your back hip.
One way to test if this is the problem is to try the Back Heel Up Drill http://simpleswing.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~326.asp
Would you give me a little more information and I'll see if I can nail down this problem?
Joe Davidson
Simple Golf
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jkel
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Posted - June 30 2009 : 3:44:12 PM
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You are probably a dominate trail side hitter like me. If so, You may want to consider using a standard grip for your driver, for now. I have the same issue. I could never master the strong SS grip. Even though I would "crush" my iron shots with the standard SS setup and grip, the fairway wood and driver play would always result in a severe hooks.
In order for me to continue playing SS, I went back to standard, neutral golf grip. I can't hit it as far as the SS strong grip or a conventional setup, but my accuracy is greatly improved and gives me better opportunities for GIR.
I am not advocating this as a permanent solution. Rather, it allows us to continue with our SS success. In the meantime, we can work on the SS fundamentals on the driving range trying to get rid of that trail side "hit" impulse. |
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simpleswing
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Posted - July 01 2009 : 10:53:10 AM
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Tiu and jkel,
You should read the Dial-A-Thumb article http://simpleswing.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~1270.asp That may help get your thumb in the right position.
Just by changing your PowerThumb position you should be able to dial in the ball flight you want especially to protect against things like hooks.
Joe Davidson
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