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flopper
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 Posted - July 05 2007 : 5:12:55 PM
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Hi
I been playing trying to emulate the LPG swing without the training aids with some success. Shot 78 as best score on my home course.
However, since I havent had the training aids things I done are to add flaws in motions I performed. Finaly last week i decided, enough is enough, there has to be sumtin I can do to play golf as i want.
So, since I did read some forums of Single axis i found symple swing.
So I decided to test it out.
I started out last thursday June 28, have played as far 4 rounds or so with the swing.
Shot, 95, 95, 92, and 86 today.
However, my play is much better than my score since I lost a few shots due to missreading greens and some short game stuff.(mostly beacuse I missed a lot of greens)
Swingwise, I hit the ball as far I did before with some additional length when I am going for it, still practising the basics and the swing has improved slowly during the week.
I started out reading all the posts on the forum, got the short pdf with chipping. Out on the range, and on the course i have found during the week that I can hit and play shots as I want to without any misshaps due to alignment, swingplane or any other stuff.
I practice chipping more than the full shots, take it down slowly to the course with power since I am more interested to develop the correct or "proper" technique. (motion)
My experience as far is,
I hit the ball as far as before and still only use 60% or so power and driver is working just fine.
The swing has improved over the week where i have been working with details of the Symple swing.
The thumbgrip, the stance, the angle of hands and arms, the angle of clubhead being aligned after the swingplane without moving, braced against the left side, align to left armpit etc...
I played 27 holes today, gamewise I could hit the ball where I wanted for most parts, I had a slice with driver earlier, today it was more or less gone. making sure left hand stands straight and on plane.
Last 9 holes I played very well, had some great shortgame shots and the only missing bit was the approach shots where I missed to many greens. However, all shots was close to the green and I managed to save some pars.
My sensation is that slowly it gets better and better to hit the ball, it goes a little further as i get down the motions and moves.
Its also easy to check what is going wrong when something goes a little off.
For me the symple swing shows promise and I can even now after a week hit the ball as far and as well I did before but now its all starts to get where I want it to go getting better and better each time.
For any golfer I can suggest they test it out, it require some reading, testing and practice, but as far I tested it shows it goes pretty fast.
For me its get down to the goal i have for this year to start playing par golf at scratch level, as I play atm it can happen any day since the symple swing for me brings golf back into playing and not maintaining or fixing my swing each time I am out on the course.
(one of the things I wanted to get)
I still do the set up basically at each shot,
thumbgrip, stance, flare foot, left slide hip, brace leg push right foot, push/pull right and left hand, armpit, angle of spine set, backswing and downswing.
Doing all that each time dont take long, its also helps practice down the moves playing so slowly I can go after the ball better and better.
The slice is gone more or less, the plane is much better, hands aligned correct, has some shots that goes left but that is old habit of rotation, happens a little when tired, in and all, its goes slowly to remove the old habits but after a week of testing I am pleased.
Will purchase the online stuff when i get a hand of a card.
Will also keep this thread updated on progress on how the scoring and swing goes.
The forum has been helpful to a extensive degree, thx Joe and Mike.
Your best
/Robert
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flopper
Sweden
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Posted - July 06 2007 : 1:06:52 PM
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Shot an 84 today.
First 9 was good play, only had 3 bad shots and the lie was pretty bad on two of them and third went into the water.
10 over for the first nine with ending double bogey and tripple bogey with 2 3 putts didnt reflect how well I was playing.
Hit 4 greens.
Last 9 holes, shot 3 over, hit one green and 3 putted it!
Greens still are not up to being as good, end of july is when at least its becoming smooth enough to be fair.
However shortgame is working well.
Only had one bad shot, which was due to not stopping and starting over.
Overall, pleased with the progress and my game is almost where I want it to be, just need to score a little and hit those greens in regulation a little more.
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simpleswing
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Posted - July 06 2007 : 7:24:18 PM
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Hi Flopper,
Very good on your progress although you do seem to be doing it the hard way. I'm impressed with your thoroughness to put all that information together. You're almost making me think we made Symple Swing too simple. :-) But I know you had to have a good understanding of the golf swing to learn as much as you have so quickly just from the forum.
Most golfers who have experience with other single axis swings (Natural Golf, Lever Powered Golf, Graves, Hazeline, Big Grip Golf, etc.) do seem to make the transition to Symple Swing quite quickly and they do seem to pick up about one club in distance.
If you're having a little cash flow problem right now maybe we can work out a payment plan. We've done this a couple of times with other golfers and even sent them the materials up front and everyone has always paid up according to the plan.
Joe Davidson
Simple Golf
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mikeoleary
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Posted - July 06 2007 : 7:28:56 PM
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Flopper
congrats! sounds like you are well on the road to really benefiting from SS. I like the way your progressing. 86 and 84 last 2 rounds with some very good ball striking/ sounds like breaking 80 is right around the corner with some good greens.
keep us updated and if you have any questions just email Joe or myself
take care and let us know how it goes/ good luck
Mike O |
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flopper
Sweden
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Posted - July 11 2007 : 06:56:45 AM
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Thx Joe, Mike.
Well, I am alawys gathering as much info as possible and then follwing instructions and ingrain a proper motion.
I have found a few swing flaws I have had during the week and today I am going up in my first clubmatch for the clubchampionchip here.
Its a small club but always fun to compete.
Swing is going along well, I am now gonna test out to shorten backswing since it seems I overswing a little.
Ingrain right wrist flat, shorten BS, lower body still, its the main adressing things I am working on now, one at the time.
I have played some shots with my 3wood that surpassed my old distance and with some nice acuracy.
I didnt find many greens yet so acuracy isnt up to the level i want but that will come with the proper motions since when I am doing it right, it produces some truly nice shots.
/Rob |
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flopper
Sweden
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Posted - July 12 2007 : 04:23:41 AM
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Well, won my 1 match in the club championchip.
Played carefully and made 10 straight bogies, was working on shorten the backswing and left hand straight which made some nice shots but lost some distance due to not going for it.
I was however 6 up after 10 holes so, steady bogie golf made it easy ;)
Stepped up a little last 9 which made the distance and acuracy to my liking, played very well.
Shorten the backswing to be where it should be made a nice tweak where I noticed I hit all my shots better and acuracy went up a lot. (was overswinging before.)
Its getting there.
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simpleswing
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Posted - July 12 2007 : 11:14:49 AM
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Hi Flopper,
Keep up the good work.
A shorter backswing is a more controllable backswing. Most people don't realize that you lose little if any distance with a shorter backswing and you sure gain accuracy and consistency. In fact, I see most golfers gain average distance when they use a compact backswing.
Even the PGA pro's are shortening their backswings these days.
Joe Davidson
Simple Golf
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mikeoleary
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Posted - July 12 2007 : 2:05:43 PM
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Flopper
congrats! always great to hear of progress, both on a consistent swing level and on a competitive scoring level.
Let me explain a couple of things/ as you are making the correct adjustments to your swing.
- shortening your swing refers to how high your hands go as with a CG swing/ we guarantee more power because we promote a full turn or upper body coil not letting the hands get too high above shoulder level and improper wrist break.
-accuracy is much improved with SS because of club face staying square and taking the power out of the 'back' hand letting the body uncoiling to provide club head speed, thus not manipulating club face with hand / grip pressure making the ball go offline.
good luck on in your next match/ relax and focus on making good swings
thanks so much for the posts/ look forward to more
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flopper
Sweden
320 Posts |
Posted - July 15 2007 : 12:27:54 PM
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Hi
Some feedback.
During the week I been playing a little less than usual, I played today and found that the shorten of backswing was more on, the left hand more straight and the one important thing I did was to turn shoulders and for me it felt like rotating around the same spot. I been having to much lateral motion a flaw I never been able to notice much. This awareness made the swing much more smooth and acurate.
With that my game was really solid today, I had a few holes that I played well but was a little unlucky.
However, I shot a 83 including 2 missing balls and a ball under a tree.
Played very solid and had a great acuracy. The small adjustments/tweaks I been working on to sort out from my old swinging are starting to come togheter really well.
With this I could start to really go for the ball and started to hit lengths I seldom have had with my previous swing.
But also with better acuracy.
I will get into a busy week playing golf so I will get a good measurement in how it holds up the coming week.
Hoping to make a new personal best this week, (78 currently).
/Rob |
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flopper
Sweden
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Posted - July 17 2007 : 4:17:03 PM
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The swing starts to make progress,
the distance i got atm with driver is around 250-270+ yards
I found how today, all it took was to stand a little away from the ball with the driver to get the proper angle with left arm, and i could rip the driver.
Still working with left arm and hand, shorten backswing (the proper one) and a shoulder turn core wise.
However, swing is getting better and better.
I will be playing in a small tournament tomorow where 10 qualify for nine extra holes in a sudden death for each hole so the winner is the one who stands last at 9.
What I feel is that I can start to play the game as I want to play it.
Tomorow gonna be a good test, even when the rain is going to be pouring down heh ;) |
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simpleswing
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Posted - July 17 2007 : 6:00:23 PM
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Hi flopper,
Good luck tomorrow.
Symple Swing generally holds up very well in competition because there are fewer things to think about (and fewer things to go wrong). Just concentrate on the basics and I'm sure you'll do fine.
The only thing Symple Swing can't help you with is staying dry. :-)
Joe Davidson
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flopper
Sweden
320 Posts |
Posted - July 18 2007 : 12:26:01 PM
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Golf is cruel sometimes.
I shot 90.
I had 8 greens in reg, 7 more close by.
Had some good shots but short game was off, had not one chip and one putt.
Lost a lot of shots on 2 holes where my teeshot was off and hit the water.
Stats shows i was playing decent, but since scoring the short game has to be there and it was off a little to much. I had several good chips and pitches, some went right at flag but was a little long and greens not so good in condition made it hard to hole them.
I had also 5 3 putts, in all a good round even if score is off it does not tell the whole truth, played well and will play a round tomorow, just needs a few tweaks and i be shooting scores I want.
I was teching this swing to my sisters son, he could pick it up and hit several shots pretty far and with good acuracy, he was pleased. |
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simpleswing
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Posted - July 18 2007 : 2:06:32 PM
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Hi flopper,
Sometimes scoring well and hitting the ball well are two different things. If you really want to score well you need to spend the majority of your time on the short game. Very few of us do that. The practice greens at most courses are very lightly used.
The Symple Swing Short Game really works amazingly well. Symple Swing should make chipping the strongest part of your game but it does take practice.
Joe Davidson
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flopper
Sweden
320 Posts |
Posted - July 24 2007 : 11:29:44 AM
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Hi
The swing starts to come togheter.
I shot an 81 and had really good shot during the round, 2 mis****s from tee took 5 shots from me so all and all a solid round.
What I got so far in my experience is that all my previous ways of hitting the ball are getting identified with all the small flaws I have had.
I had good control over how I hit the ball and distance is good.
/R |
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simpleswing
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Posted - July 24 2007 : 12:35:25 PM
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Hi Flopper,
Very good on the 81. That's quite good especially with a couple of errant tee shots. It sounds like you're really starting to understand the swing.
Joe Davidson
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flopper
Sweden
320 Posts |
Posted - July 25 2007 : 3:19:38 PM
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yea, I shot 80 today, had 2 tee shots that wasnt to bad but lost one ball in one couldnt find it and the second ball I mis**** short, so made a tripple there.
2 holes I made 5 shots over, so the swing works well, I play really well, the shots are good and acurate, I get from time to time some old habits coming back but are often pretty easy to correct.
game wise, its really good, I am enjoying the golf i am getting and the swing works well for me.
But I ended the last 3 holes 1 under, and I had one shot from the sand 120 yards to go, but a good shot from the sand saved par.
For me the swing works well, i continue to work on the fundamentals and are progressing well.
I will shoot a new personal best any day now currently its 78.
:D
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simpleswing
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Posted - July 25 2007 : 5:22:05 PM
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Hi Flopper,
I delighted to hear of your progress. Symple Swing does get better and better as you groove it and get those bad habits (we all have them) out of the swing.
What's going on with those couple of tee shots that is causing you a problem?
Joe Davidson
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flopper
Sweden
320 Posts |
Posted - August 08 2007 : 6:55:53 PM
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Some feedback.
The instruction of letting right hand/arm or even side to tag along to be passive and restrict the HIt impulse did put me aside the what to do...
I found that each shot was different than the earlier one, not consistent at all, I tried a lot until the coin dropped, I had to focus attention on my left hand/arm which allowed a correct right hand/arm motion to occour, as I did that the swing feels the same with each club.
I played 2 rounds yesterday, first one was awful, some good shots with some bad shots blended, finnaly I hit some good approach shots on green with wedges, now I noticed I hit them well and went back to notice what was in my focus of attention. My left shoulder.
Finding that out I simply let the left arm be my attention of focus and suddenly I started to hit the ball well.
For me this allows a proper right hand/arm side to come into play without a hit impulse and also allow a power to come into hitting the ball.
I had the first nine holes of the second round pretty decent hits and played well, bad chipping and putting didnt allow me the score but I was more going for the consistency swinging.
The last nine holes I shot 4 over, 2 double bogeys with one ball lost.
Chipped in for birdie and missread some putts for birdies.
If I focus my attention on the left arm and hand coming into the impact (pre-set position) then the swing simply works for me.
I be playing a club-match tomorow the semifinal against a better player handicap wise.
Will see how the swing holds up and how I be doing.
For me the instruction can be changed to focus on the left hand/arm delivered to the impact position, this allows a proper left hand/arm but also a correct right hand/arm motion keeping the clubhead square and delivering power due to correct motion going for the ball.
/Rob
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simpleswing
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Posted - August 09 2007 : 10:46:34 AM
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Hi Flopper,
Your right about the left side. I just think of the left side/arm/hand as being the focus of the swing. For some folks who have been right side swingers previously that does take some work and some concentration. I find doing a "Shoulder Waggle" http://simpleswing.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~332.asp helps me concentrate of the left shoulder and left arm in the backswing.
Joe Davidson
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flopper
Sweden
320 Posts |
Posted - August 10 2007 : 3:25:43 PM
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Yes.
Left side focus swing feels the same.
I had a good round today, the swing starts to come togheter for me.
Played 18 holes shooting a 87, bad short game was the reason.
However, played 9 more holes before going home,
I had the best long game ever in my short history in golf.
I did hit 4 greens, but all the rest was almost on green or close.
For me the one detail that made this was the left elbow turn, for some reason I forgot to include it in my pre-shot routine.
Lot of other stuff I practice doing.
Hit solid shots all the way the last nine holes.
Gonna play some small clubtournament tomorow and well see how it works then.
The swing starts to come togheter really well and I look forward to go playing.
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simpleswing
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Posted - August 10 2007 : 4:05:26 PM
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Hi Flopper,
Yep, as simple as Symple Swing is it's still easy to forget one little thing (like the elbow) that can make a big difference.
Here's an example: I had a call today from a panicked student today that said he was suddenly hitting everything off the toe. As he set up to show me his problems he verbally went through his pre-shot checklist for his set up routine. Then he suddenly started to hit everything long and straight (before I even said a word). Here's what happened. When he verbally went through his checklist verbally and he got to the part about getting his weight on the balls of his feet and he realized he hadn't been doing that!!! He had gotten sloppy and just didn't go through his mental checklist. So just by saying his checklist out loud he had cured himself. He fully realizes that now he can fix his own problems now just by reviewing his own mental checklist.
Joe Davidson
Simple Golf
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