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| jclenden |
Posted - July 01 2009 : 10:55:29 PM
I finally found someone to take a video of my swing. It’s funny, you never realize what you’re doing until you can see it like this. Here they are:
7 iron face on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmAgzaS4qz4
7 iron down the line:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jYi3aPun2Q
Driver face on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPGEbiHfXUU
Driver down the line:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcWXr-272BY
(yes, that is a Krank Red Hot Chili Pepper)
As I reviewed the 4 clips I saw some positives and some negatives. Here’s what I saw:
+ Good initial stance
+ Firm right leg/hip on backswing
+ Firm left side at impact
+ Good extension on follow-through, torso fully turned
+ Good balance on follow-through
+ Head is steady through most of the downswing
+ Head stays back over right knee after impact
- Left knee kicks in on backswing
- Left knee too active on downswing because of position during backswing
- Swing plane is too flat on backswing (looks better on downswing)
- My arms get ahead of my torso on the backswing, so they are not staying in front of it
- head drops 2-3” at beginning of downswing (but then holds steady)
- right heel lifts before impact
I think most of the errors that I see are caused by trying to generate a bigger backswing. I know the flattening was a recent occurrence because I thought I was too upright so I intentionally flattened it a little bit. I guess I better return it to the previous plane.
I look at that swing and am amazed that I can hit so many decent shots given the head drop and the re-routing of the club on the way down!!
Joe and Mike, what do you guys see that I need to work on? What should be my priorities? Thanks for the input,
Jeff
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| simpleswing |
Posted - July 06 2009 : 12:56:34 PM
Hi jclenden,
You said, quote:
Joe, why should the stance with the iron be narrower? What risks are there with a wider stance?
Good question. BTW, one of the best things you can ask in golf is "WHY?". You should definitely be looking for "why" before you try most anything new in golf. Unfortunately very few golf intructors can answer your "whys". Any golf instructor (including me) should be able to tell you why they are asking you to do something a particular way. If they can't be very careful because it's likely they are likely just teaching you "what they were taught" without really understanding it.
Okay, the "wide stance". If your stance gets "too wide" it's very easy to start leaving your weight on your back leg and not hitting into the front leg. When you do that you lose power and very often your front hip opens up causing a big pull. YOU WERE NOT DOING THIS at least in the video I saw however your stance was approaching the width where it could start becoming difficult hitting in the front leg properly.
BTW, one way to check (or test) any problems hitting into the front leg is to try the Back Heel Up Drill http://simpleswing.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~326.asp
So the bottom line is your width was okay for your swing because you make a good strong move into your front leg. However, that width would get a lot of other people into trouble. So it's not something you have to change, however it is something that you should be aware of.
I hope this answers your question. If it doesn't please feel free to ask again.
Joe Davidson
Simple Golf |
| jclenden |
Posted - July 04 2009 : 11:37:35 PM
Joe, why should the stance with the iron be narrower? What risks are there with a wider stance? |
| simpleswing |
Posted - July 03 2009 : 12:58:53 PM
Hi jclenden,
Flopper is right on watching your backswing. The initial part of your backswing is quite good but up about horizontal you get a bit inside meaning under the swing plane
Notice how the butt of your club is pointing well outside the Extended Target Line.
You do a bit of a loop at the top to get back on plane.
I'd like to see much less bend in your front knee. Your front knee bends and your front hip goes in towards the ball more than I'd like to see. When your front hip goes in on the backswing it means it has to swing back on the downswing often swing too far to the left opening your shoulders and causing pulls. Check out Symple Turn http://simpleswing.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~1192.asp for more details. Bending that front knee is also causing you to "overswing" meaning having a longer backswing than needed (i.e. effective). A long backswing may feel good but it's causing you to loop and it's contributing to your pulls.
Picture yourself standing in the swing trainer in Floppers post. You'd be way under than trainer by the time you were horizontal.
Your stance looks a bit wide especially on the iron shot but you seem to have the flexibility to handle it.
You're doing a lot of things right and you have a good looking swing. With just a little work I think you could make it awesome.
Joe Davidson
Simple Golf
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| flopper |
Posted - July 02 2009 : 03:10:23 AM
The one thing I notice, is the same thing Joe been on me for.
you take the club way back.
You look fit also btw.
This is the advice Joe gave me.
Check Points
I would suggest working on two checkpoints in the backswing. (Everyone would benefit from working on these checkpoints.)
Check Point #1
The first check point is when your club is 45 degress back from address. At this point the shaft of your club should still be pointing at the Extended Target Line. That's key. If you shaft isn't pointing at the Extended Target Line then you're off plane already.
Check Point #2
When your club is 90 degrees back (i.e. horizontal) the shaft should be parallel to the Extended Target Line. By this I mean the butt of your club should be pointing just left of the target (assuming right handed golfer) and the club head end of the shaft should be pointing straight back parallel to the Extended Target Line. Notice the club is parallel to the yellow line on the ground indicating the Extended Target Line.
so, I guess you cut across in the backswing.
if your able to follow the above, I would assume you get some better acuracy and power, with less effort.
Giving up trying to meet goals and outcomes this year.
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